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  Christian Arrogance

  by startingover in

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  maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.

  the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.

  i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.

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  AK-jeff

  What if you wanted to be chosen for decades and thought you were, then found out you weren't.

  Perhaps when you "found out you weren't" that was God trying to help you - just a thought.....

  I don't see how it can be argued that there is a certain arrogance of aire when someone believes that Sky-Daddy has picked them as son/daughter, thus favoring them for everlasting cloud-dweller while planning a hot southern retreat for us 'uncalled and unchosen'.

  Who said you are "uncalled and unchosen"? Did you come to this conclusion yourself due to past experience's?

  I view myself as a christian and I certainly do not think that way - I believe christ died for all mankind, not just for a select elite few or some particular group.

  Their is hope for us all yet.........
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  Christian Arrogance

  by startingover in

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  maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.

  the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.

  i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.

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  You don't have to be christian to be arrogant.

  Plenty of arrogant people in the world - men, woman, christian, jew, muslim, hindu, young, old, black, white, religious, non religious, atheists etc etc.

  So as far as i am concerned anyone pointing the finger at another group and accusing them of being arrogant is being - well - arrogant!

  You say "Why has God not chosen me?" With all due respect you do not sound like someone who would want to be chosen - perhaps that's the answer to your question.

  The Scotsman
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  Another Scotsman reporting for duty :)

  by cofty in

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  hi all, its time i stopped lurking around here.

  i've been posting at jws for just over a year, i know a few names here and it looks like there is lots of good banter going on.. i am a second generation, born-in who grew up in west-central scotland.

  i pioneered in edinburgh and later married and settled in berwick just south of the border.

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  I was an attendant at Murrayfield - and was risen to the heady heights of attendant captain at Perth.

  It was great - did not need to sit through those long long sessions - that 99% of JWs don't like but would never admit.
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  Another Scotsman reporting for duty :)

  by cofty in

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  hi all, its time i stopped lurking around here.

  i've been posting at jws for just over a year, i know a few names here and it looks like there is lots of good banter going on.. i am a second generation, born-in who grew up in west-central scotland.

  i pioneered in edinburgh and later married and settled in berwick just south of the border.

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  The Scotsman

  Hello and welcome to the board. Plenty of scots here. I am in the "Glasgow area" - can't be more specific than that.

  I suppose my process out the Borg was similar - started with niggling doubts, and as you say, once that first domino falls thats it.

  I am sorry to hear you have finished with God. The tsunami was definately a faith tester for even the strongest believers. I truly do not fully understand why a loving God could sit back and let it happen - then again I do not understand the complexity of the universe - and yet it is there to be seen by all - my point is - because we do not understand does not mean that God does not exist.

  Its interesting - it was a totally different event that hit me hard - the shooting of the school children in Dunblane Primary School. I was an active JW at the time and I was deeply disturbed by this event - "Where was God"? I asked a few fellow JWs. To this day I still not fully understand why God allows such things. But despite these terrible tragedies I am still willing to give God a chance. To me an Atheistic view is no improvement - some of the greatest atrocities ever committed were under the veil of Atheism.

  Anyway - good to see you here.

  The Scotsman
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  Snow in UK stops meetings!

  by fokyc in

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  most congregations in this area had no meeting last thursday,.

  they have now cancelled tomorrows meetings .

  perhaps snow is worse than the internet!.

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  Some congregations in the Glasgow area have cancelled meetings and ministry.

  It has been sub zero in Glasgow for about 3 weeks - day and night. Lots of snow and ice.

  Bet the rank and file were gutted they had to stay in and watch telly instead.
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  Richard Dawkins forum

  by zoiks in

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  are there any posters here who also read and/or post on the forums at richard-dawkins.net?

  it seems as though a large number of xjws post there.

  there are some really good and thought provoking points made, from a slightly different perspective.. just wondering!.

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  Alot of good points jaguarbass

  Richard Dawkins is incredibly self centered and arrogant as far as I am concerned - which does not help his cause!

  I also think he gets to much publicity - he is held in almost godlike status by some.

  He will be loving it of course - cha ching - ££££££££££
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  Do Atheists Celebrate Christmas?

  by believingxjw in

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  do atheists celebrate christmas, the celebration of christ's birth?.

  if so, why?.

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  I suppose your right, but god dammit it's so hard to do when I haven't been in the position of belief in the Deity for so long I forget that people really get offended over slights in their imaginary friend. Anyway I do it in jest I hope you understand.

  I appreciate their was a lot of jest in what you said - no problem.

  imaginary friend

  Now cut out the jokes!!!
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  Do Atheists Celebrate Christmas?

  by believingxjw in

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  do atheists celebrate christmas, the celebration of christ's birth?.

  if so, why?.

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  frankiespeakin

  I can understand where you are coming from.

  My simple point is just that not everyone has the same beliefs on JWN. (a fairly obvious point - I know!!!)

  I have had my fair share of debates with atheists/evolutionists on this board - but debate/discussion/sharing opinions - is a good thing.

  Just try and show a wee bit of respect for others beliefs - even if you think they are totally barking up the wrong tree entirely.

  I bet you used the direct approach in the ministry!!!!!

  Hope you had a good christmas - may the new year bring us all some happiness.......
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  Do Atheists Celebrate Christmas?

  by believingxjw in

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  do atheists celebrate christmas, the celebration of christ's birth?.

  if so, why?.

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  Can I just say I have read all of the posts on this subject - interesting stuff - but - "frankiespeakin" - you have not came across well.

  Its ok being an atheist - I have no problem with that.

  Personally I believe in a God but I respect people who don't - each to there own and all that.

  Try and meet people in the middle man.

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  I don't want to die.

  by paul from cleveland in

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  i've been conditioned since childhood that i'm going to live forever.

  i'm having a hard time contemplating the fact that i'm going to die.

  i'm so afraid of death that i can't enjoy the life i have now.

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  I went through the exact same process - I was overcome by a fear of death.

  Give it time - you will adapt.

  Remind yourself that you are now dealing with the facts of the matter and not the WT lies.

  Also - because the WT had a lot wrong - does not mean that there is no hope.

  I for one have maintained a strong belief in God and that we can face the future with confidence.

  Whatever you decide to believe the key I suppose is this - do not let the future (that has'nt happened yet) take away your joy today. Their is so much to live for.......